I've played with both of them through a mutual friend. I'm american and speak no other language. At that time they hardly ever used vent anyways. Even when they did I learned what the count down for spiking.
The greatest thing I learned from those guilds is their actions on vent. It was mostly silent with very little being said other than what needed to be said. I have yet to play with any other guilds that could do that.
I'd have to go with EviL, seemed like nice folks too. I did some AB once with Starr ... very nice and not at all pretentious (which he thoroughly deserves to be on this game). He even joined us as a random PuG xD